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SSJ3 Goku VS Buutenks Filler
Topic Started: Mar 2 2014, 05:25 PM (3,047 Views)
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I noticed that after Gotenks's fusion time finished in Buu's body and Buu reverted to Buu (Piccolo Absorbed), Goku says that Buu is no match for him now that he doesn't have Gotenks's power anymore (This is from the Funi dub so if it's contradicted in the Jap version, let me know).

In the manga however, Goku doesn't say that he himself can beat Buu but rather says Gohan can kill Buu. So going by both of these chains...

Manga

Buutenks > Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks > Super Buu (Piccolo) > Super Buu >>>>> SSJ3 Goku

Anime

Buutenks > SSJ3 Goku ~ Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks > Super Buu (Piccolo) > Super Buu

Does this seem accurate?
Edited by Yusuke, Mar 2 2014, 05:25 PM.
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Pretty much. Though I think Gohan is stronger than Goku in that filler.
Edited by DSTREET45, Mar 2 2014, 05:46 PM.
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Yup. Anime ssj3 goku is possibly stronger than mystic gohan
Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Mar 2 2014, 05:46 PM.
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SSJ3 Goku is stronger than anyone except probably SSJ Vegito in the anime english or japanese.

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Buutenks > Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks > Super Buu (Piccolo) > Super Buu >>>>> SSJ3 Goku

Anime

Buutenks > SSJ3 Goku ~ Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks > Super Buu (Piccolo) > Super Buu


This is accurate, more or less, but it contradicts later in the series as I'm sure you're aware of
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"I am the bone of my sword."

This isn't just the English Dub. Even the Japanese version makes Goku far stronger than he would normally be. I can't say it any othe rway but Toei basically stood in line next to a Goku poster and said.

"Stop it Takanawa, some of us want a turn too! You've sucked Goku's **** long enough let us have a turn!" Because that's exactly what it is. They milk the living crap out of Goku's man nipple and suck on him until there is nothing left to suck. Basically Toei is the one who decided to jack off on Goku (and I'm sorry but I can't say this any other way, they are the biggest Goku fanboys ever) and Funimation probably just went off on that.

Hopefully when the Boo Arc Kai is done, they don't anything that stupid again.
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The Japanese dub says they still can't deal with Boo even after he is back to his Super Boo form. Fyi.

Suffice to say, I still have doubts about Pure Boo > Gohan-Boo in the anime.
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Is it suppose to be Toriayama's fault that Goku in SSJ3 is ~ Mystic Gohan in the anime?
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Mar 2 2014, 09:29 PM
Is it suppose to be Toriayama's fault that Goku in SSJ3 is ~ Mystic Gohan in the anime?
No one is blaming Toriyama.
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Mar 2 2014, 09:37 PM
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Mar 2 2014, 09:29 PM
Is it suppose to be Toriayama's fault that Goku in SSJ3 is ~ Mystic Gohan in the anime?
No one is blaming Toriyama.
He was the one who made DBZ right? Isn't he?
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Toriyama had very little involvement with the production of the anime. The manga makes it clear that Gohan is much stronger than Goku. Toei changed that so Goku could come out on top, as always.
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Mar 2 2014, 09:43 PM
Toriyama had very little involvement with the production of the anime. The manga makes it clear that Gohan >>> Goku. Toei changed so Goku could come out on top, as always.
Why didn't Toriyama want to work on the anime as much as he worked on the manga?
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The manga was completely done by him. The anime is just based on the manga
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Mar 2 2014, 09:07 PM
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The Japanese dub says they still can't deal with Boo even after he is back to his Super Boo form. Fyi.

Suffice to say, I still have doubts about Pure Boo > Gohan-Boo in the anime.
Yeah this line is actually pretty funny in retrospect. Goku can defeat Gohan in mere Super Saiyan, the Gohan who was said to have the same amount of power. This very same Gohan manhandled Super Boo, so Goku should be able to as well.

Ok there Toei.
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Goku implies that he and Gotenks are in the same ball park at Ssj3. Gohan's power up after Old Kai blew Goku's mind. All from the funi dub.
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Your list isnt wrong but the reason is wrong

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SSj3 Goku > Mystic Gohan comes from the fact that Goku fought Buutenks more evenly than Gohan did, not because Goku could beat Super Buu.
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